Grateful Dead Live at Augusta Civic Center on 1984-10-12
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Feel Like A Stranger, It Must Have Been The Roses, On The Road Again, Jack A Roe, It's All Over Now, Cumberland Blues, The Music Never Stopped
Cold Rain & Snow, Lost Sailor-> Saint Of Circumstance-> Don't Need Love-> Uncle John's Band-> Drums-> Playin' Reprise-> Uncle John's Band-> Morning Dew, E: Good Lovin'
Final / last "On The Road Again"
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|Feel Like A Stranger|
|It Must Have Been The Roses|
|On The Road Again*|
|It's All Over Now|
|The Music Never Stopped|
|Cold Rain And Snow|
|Lost Sailor ->|
|Saint Of Circumstance ->|
|Don't Need Love ->|
|Uncle John's Band ->|
|Playing In The Band Reprise ->|
|Uncle John's Band ->|
*Final performance (previous performance: 4/19/83 U. of Maine)
Master Soundboard Cassette > Reel to Reel > DAT> CDR
There are some minor technical difficulties throughout, most prevelant
during "Cold Rain & Snow," "Lost Sailor" and "Saint of Circumstance."
CDR ReMastering / Patching by Scott Clugston
EAC'ed / SHN'ed by Scott Clugston
[Sizable cut after the main portion of UJB through the rest of the show]
Source: Oade Recording -- FOB -- Schoeps CMC 441> Oade M118 >
Sony TC D5>DATs (@44.1k).
DAT>SHN -- Sony PCM-M1>Coax 7 pin>Zoltrix Nightingale (coax mod)>
Soundforge 5.0 (No Processing)>CDWAV (track splitting)>SHN (Seekable)
Thanks to JJ for the DAT DAT>CDR x-fer by darrin (email@example.com).
Seeded to etree 4/12/02
[Beginning of CR&S patched with Greg Holtz's AUD recording (shnid=101952), transferred by Jamie Waddell (GEMS): Nakamichi CM-100 mics with CP-4 shotgun caps to a Sony D-5 stereo cassette recorder.]
Thank you to Scott Clugston for the SBD transfer,
to Doug Oade for recording the show,
to Darrin Sacks for the AUD transfer,
and to Greg Holtz and Jamie Waddell for supplying the AUD patch.
Thank you to Rob Bertrando for help with pitch correction,
and to hentairobsan2012 for suggesting this matrix.
- 2011-12-17 20:50:38
- Augusta, ME
- Run time
- Matrix of SBD (shnid=5585) and AUD (shnid=8795) by Jubal H. Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN > AIFF > Final Cut > AIFF CD tracking via Audacity > FLAC16 via xACT w/meta-tagging)
- Transferred by
- Hunter Seamons
- Augusta Civic Center
Subject: Was many a first eight four
This tape had a healthy trading profile in the days of B&P. An AUD that held up well to dubbing made the trade popular, and it was sometimes the only '84 on tape lists. Today though, those who listen to more '84s have found better shows. The night before also shows up on lists with equal frequency, and though that's the better show, this was the night chosen for official release. It's a fine show, but given what's available today I wouldn't hedge it for a top five for the year. There are exciting parts and below-average parts. It's known mainly for having a Don't Need Love and the final On the Road Again.
First Set. The middle of the 1st set has some historical value, but the bookends are better-played. Opener Feel Like a Stranger feels like mid-show. It Must Have Been the Roses is also in a weird place and is played well enough until – good gods – that solo! The year's top version (of only 5). There was only one On the Road Again in '84 and then it was put in the attic. It's an average version but, interestingly, 1983's lone example was in Maine too. The year's only Jack-a-Roe comes next and it's solid (it had been 2 years). It's All Over Now starts at a faster tempo than usual, though the beat falls out of the pocket by the end. The last pair are above average, particularly the Cumberland, but it's a short set.
Second Set. Cold Rain & Snow serves to warm them back up from the break. They were down to just five of Lost Sailor per year, and it's a tad rusty, albeit better than the clunky Saint that follows (granted "Still can't see that old man southern sun/What the fuck you gonna do" is better than "mebbe goin onna feeee/mebbe goin onna feeee/mebbe goin onna feeeee"). The Brent rarity Don't Need Love has no business in this set position, but at least it doesn't go into Drums. This is the ninth, and one of the better ones, for this indifferently-arranged blue-eyed soul ballad. Jer and Bobby could never really find the melody (it's almost a vamp), and it was dropped shortly hereafter. The majorly-long start to Uncle John's Band is rough, but the jam is good fun (note the Blues for Allah nod @11min). Drums had somewhat petered out in '84, but here they are better than the fumfering Space. They had played Playin' the night before, and either this is a reprise or, probably, they evolved into it, remembered they had just played it, and so did only one verse. Though Jer does hit the riff, it barely forms for a long time – and that's the best part: mostly a jam, but when Jer is done Bobby's just starting, so it ends up a bit off and Jer heads back to Uncle John's (for which only a reprise is visited). It's mostly an average Dew – a bit sloppy, truth be told, until late, when Jer starts pulling rabbits regardless. On paper this set looks better than actuality; including the encore – which is ragged. Draggy and with shoes-in-the-dryer, the Heads are left with a trainwreck.
1st Set: B
2nd Set: C
Overall = 3¼ stars
It Must Have Been the Roses – best of '84
SOURCES: There's about a bazillion sources for this one, but the Seamons matrix outstrips them all – best image, excitement and a lack of cuts. Like SBD sources, it needs -1% pitch correction for the first set. A great, newer AUD source is 143086-schoeps (most other AUDs run fast). The whole show is on 30 Trips, with the first disc needing -1% pitch. Definitive Live has Feel Like a Stranger. Most of the show is usually up on YouTube, in poor qual.
Subject: Wish I was There!
Subject: Augusta '84
Subject: 19th Trip Around the Sun
Subject: all we have are opinions
Subject: A long crazy night
I had pretty much assumed that this show was so far ahead of anything else that anyone would want to throw against it from 1984. (Yes, even the Berkeley D. Star show although if you put up a BCT show from November I could understand that)
So for the record I have the great pleasure of telling one and all this is the best show of 84.
I am just sitting down to the Stranger and it is just a flat our jam and the rhythm in running on that Shakedown vibe.
This is also the recording you want to listen to this show with because Hunter S. has the sound mastered. I can hear the music clearly and I can also tell the crowd is going N-U-T-S.
That Stranger clocked in at a solid 10 minutes.
So what makes a hot show. How about after you dance your butt off for 10 minutes Jerry brings one of the sweetest ballads in the GD catalog.
I don't have my Deadbase any more but as I recall 'Roses' was a pretty rare tune by this time.
Now just listen to Jerry take his solo it is just dripping. "All I know is I could not leave her there"
So what you going to play Bobby. Oh I hear it already bouncing around the hall. A few heads picked up on it. And just for the record it is the final ON THE ROAD AGAIN. Now that is loose right there. Third song of 1st set. The Board messing with Bobby's vocals. Listen to the harmonies on this. Flashback 1980 Radio City.
Except this is electric and very feisty.
So Garcia what is your call? Crowd is already in a frenzy. zap! A double time JACK A ROE again if memory serves me not a common song in 84. Listen to the pace of this tune they are tearing it up. How fast can you dance to this? well you better get on it because train is leaving station, rocket leaving for Jupiter.
It is that contrast between Garcia's laid back vocals and the frantic pace of the song that get's me dancing.
The next tune is a nod to the Stones and they do Mick and the boys proud. I caught this tune at Meadowlands and folks were dancing so hard the security at Byrne had to turn their faces away for fear their plastic gear would melt thus encasing them forever with EVENT STAFF labeled to their foreheads.
I love any tune where Jerry gets to belt out backing vocals example-Promised Land.
Listen to Brent on the Organ he is shucking and jiving it. Always had to half Step when he plays the organ. Weir taking a ride on the slide. Here comes Jerry. He just sounds awesome. And the group jam is tasty as well.
Now the only thing I don't have yet is the Phil Zone but wait for it. here comes the Cumberland Blues. As a rule of thumb any show that I went to where Cumberland was played was a show with lots of Phil in the mix.
I thought they were flying on the Jack-O-Roe just listen to the pace of this Cumberland. And here is the point where I think things really start to gel. First off the jamming is stellar , the vocals on the Cumberland are over the top it is like Brent and jerry are throwing themselves into the lyrics. Here comes Bob's verse. Nice harmonies Jerry's voice a little stressed but he is using what he has to full effect. Jerry is just tearing it up and Brent has switched over to a picking type piano sound almost like the train effect in old bluegrass tunes. (like in LET IT ROCK)
Sound dropped out on the back end of Cumberland
just briefly. Sound back
Dang, MUSIC, so if you are not totally spent Bobby is going to pound you now. Not saying this is the best Music Never that I have heard, (Hersey P.A. probably my favorite of the 80's)
But the thing I always try to get a feel for is how is the Band playing and to me they are just bursting at the seams. I am not sure there is a way to measure shear volume but this MUSIC is fat.
And Listen to Jerry he came to play tonight.
2nd set. Why is there a difference between a Rain and Snow opener in 1st or 2nd set? I am not sure but the 2nd set opener just seems a bit more warm. Rain & Snow is one of the rare tunes that I enjoyed every time I heard it. It never seemed dated to me. This is a good choice for Garcia because he doesn't have to force his range.
When everyone joins him on the backing vocals you can feel the place getting ready to blow!
"I married me a wife, been trouble all my life"
Reminds me of Henny Youngman used to say, "Take my wife, please" they say the day Youngman's wife of over 60 years died in 1987 that was the last time Henny ever said that as part of his show.
Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance= This song coupled I always enjoyed. If you are a dancer this song just had great dance vibe to it. I might dance in the same spot for most of a show but when they played this tune I was off to the races.
The worst thing that ever happened was breaking up Sailor and Saint and even worse was giving up on Sailor because Saint was never the same after that.
Don't no if you ever did this but I would break up songs into elements:
Cold Rain and Snow= SNOW
Don't Need LOVE=ICE
UMCLE JOHN'S BAND=SUNSHINE
There has been some static bouncing around during 2nd set. I think someone finally killed the Maine Coon as Brent plays Don't need Love.
You know this is the most bluesy Dead tune since Pigpen belted out the Stranger (Two Souls)
Some folks tried to play up that Jerry hated this tune because when Brent played it pre-drumz then Jerry would duck out on it. I really think this was just a case of not much Garcia could do with the tune. anyway I think it finally got back to Garcia. And this night Jerry came back out and sat in on the tune and then guided the band into Uncle John's that my friends is why I treasure this show. It was Jerry Garcia coming along Brent and proclaiming "I can hear your voice" From this point on I felt like 900,000 tons of steel were lifted off Brent's chest.
The thing I now like about DON'T NEED LOVE is it is brutally honest. If you have been jilted this song captures the emotions you are left with. (even if it wasn't the easiest tune to hear live.)
This is a very special Uncle John's Band.(no words beyond that)
The jam into drumz is very nice!
The entire UJB clocking in a full 16 minutes the last three of which find Garcia doing some cool noodling. Almost like we are going to get a meltdown and then I am thinking maybe China Doll and yes a case could be made that P.I.T.B was in the offering as well but eventually we get the rhythm section. And Ten Minutes of donkey kicking boot stomping Drumming well more like 8 minutes and then two minutes of the beam and some of that electronic stuff. Now hope you didn't do something foolish like leave the hall for a soda/ bathroom break because the SPACE as Garcia said, 'was the most creative part of the show for him' he I referring of course to post 70's. And this Space finds the Boys off exploring that little bit of noodling they left us with Pre-drumz
To me there are hints of the Other One here but it is mostly Jerry riffing. This point in the show often reminded me of Jimmy Page doing that crazy stuff with his guitar and the violin bow.
The Space finally hits the Main Ten and we are off again. You know we didn't get those monster end of 1st set P.I.T.B in the 80's but I found the boys were extremely creative in weaving in and out of PLAYING. You got to love the way they are rallying around the tune yet at the same time heading off in different directions.
This is actually the REPRISE so I am not sure if this was a PLAYING from sometime else on this tour. (Note to self-P.I.T.B started the previous night 10/11/84-Augusta)
Here is the REPRISE and it is rocking. Just bet you that some heads were puzzling that reprise and just to confuzzle a little more here comes the rare UNCLE JOHN'S RERISE. and by this time unless you are writing a setlist down you start thinking wow they are playing songs as I think of them. What did they play?=EVERYTHING!!! Here that DEW coming. Now it is Jerry's turn he has been playing his butt off all night now he is total center stage. Like PIGPEN back in the day. School is in session. This is JERRY GARCIA, this is why we went from town to town and around and around, to shake the hand that shook the hand. Something about Maine almost like it is detached from the madness of the East Coast. You can still look folks in the eye without starting a fight and shake someone's hand bone to bone. Anyway, a gigantic MORNING DEW with Jerry both playing and singing his tail off.
Mercifully the east coast rhythmic clapping is actually in time tonight. Pretty soulful.
"I guess it doesn't matter anyway"
Encore= GOOD LOVE--This just makes me tingle!!!
How high is the energy level at the end of this show. YOU COULD DRIVE ALL NIGHT TO HARTFORD AND ONLY BREATH ONCE.
Subject: I was There
Set 1 is total dynamite. I think this is actually the real essence of this show; every cut is played complete and to its fullest extent - culminating in that Cumberland - W-O-W! But don't just listen to Cumberland alone - in context with the rest of the set it represents the full-throttle unleashing of all that energy they'd been building.
Set 2 - unusual setlist, but then again it was always about how they played what the played, not what they played....still, this one makes for a bit of an unusual journey; the energy from the first set continues to spill over and some weird buzzing glitches kind of threaten to damper the show, the boys push through Sailor > Saint and sail through Brent's lounge-y Don't Need Love. Now, to put this one in the middle of the 2nd set suite is weird, because it's not a very good song - but for Brent it's listenable, even pleasant - it's kind of like being on 'pause' for a second, as the lyrics aren't particularly involving, nor is the music building towards anything - it just kind of pleasantly coasts along....so, with that, I can stand to see it as a "nachos and beer" intervention much more than missing the fireworks of Drums > Space like a lot of heads can....of course, the real meat of this 2nd set is UJB through to Morning Dew - just sublime playing, check the other reviews, everyone is right on target with all of this - for '84 this is as good as I've heard them play.
Subject: Been Waiting A Long time
This show deserves to be released and this Matrix proves to me that a worthy mix is attainable for a release. The world needs to hear this show
Subject: Best "later" era ...Cold Rain and Snow EVER!
My go to source for a show I still listen to frequently.
Subject: 1984 does it again
As for the recording, I can't thank you enough Hunter. The sound quality is just exactly perfect.
Subject: Grate Show
Subject: Worth The Wait
I wont go into the show itself, as I have many, many times before, only to say that the power and emotion on display by the band, particularly Jerry who despite his physical decay during this time, is able to dig down and rip this show up.
Dew alone gets 5 stars from me.
Subject: Best source
J.H. Seamon's matrix recording is undoubtedly the best show for this bust out. It's not 100% perfect, with some airy patches of only AUD scattered about, but still totally worth the download as the best source.
First set smokes in its entirety. And though there are some buzzing sounds during CR&S and Sailor>Saint, its still totally listen-able. Don't Need Love is heart-wrenching and performed well, this song could have been a slick studio cut had it been practiced on more imho. UJB Drums Space wrap around is rare and a nice Playin' reprise out of space finishing up what the first night started. Dew set closer solidifies this an as "on" night, simply rip roarin'.
Thanks for restoring this show the best you could! Sounds great!
Subject: Thank you